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I have a question on the backtested examples shown in section III Trading Strategy section;
http://blog.mtrig.com/page/Market-Timing-Model.aspx
Why are there different numbers of trades executed for the long and short positions in the three examples shown? If the backtests are all operating with the same VLAI trading system it would seem that the number of long trades and short trades (and the trade execution dates) should be identical in each of the three examples. Can you explain? Thanks.
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Don,
It appears that back-test formula was missing one day when it was processed over the ETFs. We will run the process again to present the returns up to the current date.
There will be a change made to the web site in the next couple of months where the % returns for the ETFs vs. the
MTR-TM will be updated daily.
Thank you for posting this issue. The updated results will be posted by the weekend.
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Don,
Due to some issues the back-tested returns were not updated yet. Look for it this coming week.
Thanks!
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Patrick,
I think there is something wrong with the new backtested results posted.
http://blog.mtrig.com/mtrig/blog/page/-Trading-Strategy-.aspx
I checked the MDY (SPR Mid Cap) long trade results. The Amibroker results page posted shows 60.63% total profit for all MDY long trades between 6/30/2006 and 1/27/2010.
I manually entered the opening price of MDY on the first trading day after an MTR-TM signal on the spreadsheet below. The total profit for the same period was only 44.79% (compared to the 60.63% shown).
| MTR-TM Signal Date |
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Trade # |
Trade |
Buy / Sell Date |
Value MDY at Open |
Profit / Loss % |
Profit / Loss |
| 5/16/2006 |
Down |
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| 6/30/2006 |
Start |
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$10,000 |
| 8/18/2006 |
Up |
1 |
Buy |
8/21/2006 |
$131.4440 |
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| 3/2/2007 |
Down |
2 |
Sell |
3/5/2006 |
$143.2250 |
9.0% |
$896 |
$10,896 |
| 3/23/2007 |
Up |
3 |
Buy |
3/26/2006 |
$150.7860 |
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| 7/27/2007 |
Down |
4 |
Sell |
7/30/2006 |
$151.3140 |
0.4% |
$38 |
$10,934 |
| 9/19/2007 |
Up |
5 |
Buy |
9/20/2006 |
$156.4310 |
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| 10/19/2007 |
Down |
6 |
Sell |
10/22/2006 |
$153.7560 |
-1.7% |
-$187 |
$10,747 |
| 12/3/2007 |
Up |
7 |
Buy |
12/4/2006 |
$150.4790 |
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| 1/4/2008 |
Down |
8 |
Sell |
1/7/2007 |
$145.3570 |
-3.4% |
-$366 |
$10,382 |
| 1/28/2008 |
Up |
9 |
Buy |
1/29/2007 |
$140.5860 |
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| 3/5/2008 |
Down |
10 |
Sell |
3/6/2008 |
$139.4130 |
-0.8% |
-$87 |
$10,295 |
| 3/24/2008 |
Up |
11 |
Buy |
3/25/2008 |
$139.9500 |
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| 6/11/2008 |
Down |
12 |
Sell |
6/12/2008 |
$152.3230 |
8.8% |
$910 |
$11,205 |
| 7/21/2008 |
Up |
13 |
Buy |
7/22/2008 |
$142.6690 |
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| 9/9/2008 |
Down |
14 |
Sell |
9/10/2008 |
$137.4550 |
-3.7% |
-$410 |
$10,796 |
| 11/3/2008 |
Up |
15 |
Buy |
11/4/2008 |
$103.4270 |
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| 11/11/2008 |
Down |
16 |
Sell |
11/12/2008 |
$90.3448 |
-12.6% |
-$1,366 |
$9,430 |
| 12/3/2008 |
Up |
17 |
Buy |
12/4/2008 |
$86.7601 |
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| 1/14/2009 |
Down |
18 |
Sell |
1/15/2009 |
$90.0930 |
3.8% |
$362 |
$9,792 |
| 3/13/2009 |
Up |
19 |
Buy |
3/16/2009 |
$83.2380 |
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| 6/18/2009 |
Down |
20 |
Sell |
6/19/2009 |
$104.9730 |
26.1% |
$2,557 |
$12,349 |
| 7/1/2009 |
Up |
21 |
Buy |
7/2/2009 |
$103.7700 |
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| 7/7/2009 |
Down |
22 |
Sell |
7/8/2009 |
$99.5444 |
-4.1% |
-$503 |
$11,847 |
| 7/16/2009 |
Up |
23 |
Buy |
7/17/2009 |
$106.6960 |
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| 10/26/2009 |
Down |
24 |
Sell |
10/27/2009 |
$125.8240 |
17.9% |
$2,124 |
$13,970 |
| 11/9/2009 |
Up |
25 |
Buy |
11/10/2009 |
$125.8810 |
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| 1/26/2010 |
Down |
26 |
Sell |
1/27/2009 |
$130.4600 |
3.6% |
$508 |
$14,479 |
| Actual Profit: |
44.79% |
| MTR-TM: |
60.63% |
Maybe you can look at the detail of your Amibroker trades on the backtest run and determine where the discrepancy is?
Regards,
Don
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Don,
The back-tested results posted were pulled directly from AMIBroker's back-test application. This made me wonder how the results could be off, so I looked at your spread sheet results.
Take a look at the first few rows in your spread sheet. Compare the Signal Date vs. the Buy/Sell date.
The Signal Dates were in 2007 but your spread sheet shows the Opening Price Data from the prior year, 2006.
Example:
--- Signal 3/2/2007 ~ SELL 3/5/2006 (Sunday) (should be 3/6/2007)
.....Opening price $131.44 should have been $148.56
--- Signal 3/23/2007 ~ BUY 3/26/2006 (should be 3/26/2007)
.....Opening price $143.22 should have been $155.81
There are other dates and prices that are not correct in the spread sheet.
Regards,
Patrick
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