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donbrown10
Posted: Monday, January 11, 2010 4:45:11 PM

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I have a question on the backtested examples shown in section III Trading Strategy section;

http://blog.mtrig.com/page/Market-Timing-Model.aspx

Why are there different numbers of trades executed for the long and short positions in the three examples shown?  If the backtests are all operating with the same VLAI trading system it would seem that the number of long trades and short trades (and the trade execution dates) should be identical in each of the three examples. Can you explain? Thanks.

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Posted: Monday, January 11, 2010 4:45:11 PM
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Posted: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:13:05 AM


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Don,

It appears that back-test formula was missing one day when it was processed over the ETFs. We will run the process again to present the returns up to the current date.

There will be a change made to the web site in the next couple of months where the % returns for the ETFs vs. the
MTR-TM will be updated daily. 

Thank you for posting this issue. The updated results will be posted by the weekend.

donbrown10
Posted: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 11:43:22 AM

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Posted: Sunday, January 17, 2010 11:27:35 PM


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Don,

Due to some issues the back-tested returns were not updated yet.  Look for it this coming week.

Thanks!

Patrick
Posted: Monday, February 01, 2010 3:33:53 AM


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Don,

See the link below for updated stats.

http://blog.mtrig.com/mtrig/blog/page/-Trading-Strategy-.aspx

Thanks,
Patrick

donbrown10
Posted: Sunday, February 07, 2010 6:15:59 PM

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Patrick,

I think there is something wrong with the new backtested results posted.

http://blog.mtrig.com/mtrig/blog/page/-Trading-Strategy-.aspx

I checked the MDY (SPR Mid Cap) long trade results.  The Amibroker results page posted shows 60.63% total profit for all MDY long trades between 6/30/2006 and 1/27/2010. 

I manually entered the opening price of MDY on the first trading day after an MTR-TM signal on the spreadsheet below.  The total profit for the same period was only 44.79% (compared to the 60.63% shown).

MTR-TM Signal Date    Trade # Trade Buy / Sell Date   Value MDY at Open Profit / Loss % Profit / Loss
5/16/2006 Down              
6/30/2006 Start              $10,000
8/18/2006 Up 1 Buy 8/21/2006 $131.4440      
3/2/2007 Down 2 Sell 3/5/2006 $143.2250 9.0% $896 $10,896
3/23/2007 Up 3 Buy 3/26/2006 $150.7860      
7/27/2007 Down 4 Sell 7/30/2006 $151.3140 0.4% $38 $10,934
9/19/2007 Up 5 Buy 9/20/2006 $156.4310      
10/19/2007 Down 6 Sell 10/22/2006 $153.7560 -1.7% -$187 $10,747
12/3/2007 Up 7 Buy 12/4/2006 $150.4790      
1/4/2008 Down 8 Sell 1/7/2007 $145.3570 -3.4% -$366 $10,382
1/28/2008 Up 9 Buy 1/29/2007 $140.5860      
3/5/2008 Down 10 Sell 3/6/2008 $139.4130 -0.8% -$87 $10,295
3/24/2008 Up 11 Buy 3/25/2008 $139.9500      
6/11/2008 Down 12 Sell 6/12/2008 $152.3230 8.8% $910 $11,205
7/21/2008 Up 13 Buy 7/22/2008 $142.6690      
9/9/2008 Down 14 Sell 9/10/2008 $137.4550 -3.7% -$410 $10,796
11/3/2008 Up 15 Buy 11/4/2008 $103.4270      
11/11/2008 Down 16 Sell 11/12/2008 $90.3448 -12.6% -$1,366 $9,430
12/3/2008 Up 17 Buy 12/4/2008 $86.7601      
1/14/2009 Down 18 Sell 1/15/2009 $90.0930 3.8% $362 $9,792
3/13/2009 Up 19 Buy 3/16/2009 $83.2380      
6/18/2009 Down 20 Sell 6/19/2009 $104.9730 26.1% $2,557 $12,349
7/1/2009 Up 21 Buy 7/2/2009 $103.7700      
7/7/2009 Down 22 Sell 7/8/2009 $99.5444 -4.1% -$503 $11,847
7/16/2009 Up 23 Buy 7/17/2009 $106.6960      
10/26/2009 Down 24 Sell 10/27/2009 $125.8240 17.9% $2,124 $13,970
11/9/2009 Up 25 Buy 11/10/2009 $125.8810      
1/26/2010 Down 26 Sell 1/27/2009 $130.4600 3.6% $508 $14,479
Actual Profit: 44.79%
MTR-TM: 60.63%

Maybe you can look at the detail of your Amibroker trades on the backtest run and determine where the discrepancy is?

Regards,

Don

 

Patrick
Posted: Sunday, February 07, 2010 9:57:21 PM


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Don,

The back-tested results posted were pulled directly from AMIBroker's back-test application. This made me wonder how the results could be off, so I looked at your spread sheet results.

Take a look at the first few rows in your spread sheet. Compare the Signal Date vs. the Buy/Sell date.

The Signal Dates were in 2007 but your spread sheet shows the Opening Price Data from the prior year, 2006.

Example:   

--- Signal 3/2/2007 ~ SELL 3/5/2006 (Sunday) (should be 3/6/2007) 
.....Opening price $131.44 should have been $148.56

--- Signal 3/23/2007 ~ BUY   3/26/2006 (should be 3/26/2007) 
.....Opening price $143.22  should have been $155.81

There are other dates and prices that are not correct in the spread sheet.

Regards,
Patrick

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